A variant from Orion appearing in December. The cheapest yet with ED glass, but curiously no claim of waterproofness.
http://www.telescope.com/control/pr...roduct_id=09256
Henry,
I was just looking at those in the catalog that arrived today. I'm planning to check them out at my local Orion dealer. Poor Swarovski. But, then, I'm an SLC kinda guy. 
Ed
Specs give the "linear field of view" as 424.4 lbs......Huh?
I like the way they´re described as having "unique open-bridge design". Not very unique anymore, is it? Do you think they´re made by the same people as are making Hawke and Promaster equivalents?